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tng

What a fantastic and diverse edition! Thanks for the extra hard work Barb and Gil.

J.R.

Looks great! Thanks for including me.

Debt Free

GIL - For sure, NAFTA may have it's share(some would argue more) of problems, but we didn't create poverty in Mexico. Their government, at all levels, suffers from endemic corruption. I can hear your next remark "Ours does too." But actually, compared to our neighbors to the south, it doesn't. In almost every case, government corruption has a high coorelation with the lack of economic development. Mexico, for example, has diverse and plentiful natural resources and hard working people, yet languishes in poverty. Why? Not because of NAFTA. Mexico's had these problems for long before NAFTA was ever signed. Corruption equals poverty. Look at Africa.

GIL

Debt Free,

While corruption in Mexico's government is well documented under the PRI, we should not also forget this government was supported among other clearly bad regimes (Pinochet for example) by the US. However, to state that South America, Central America, and Africa all suffer from poverty because of bad government is not even a statement die-hard conservatives are willing to support.

First there are the public health issues of Africa. When over a third (in some instances) of your population are unable to work because of AIDs, Malaria, or other diseases , even the best governments would fall into poverty. Has corruption compounded these issues? I am sure instances can be found. Yet one must also include the west own colonial policies: rampant exploitation of there resources, social degridation of thier populations and traditions, the arbitrary establishment of borders to have a far more broad impact on thier economic stability.

In the Americas it is much the same. First Spanish, and then American Imperialsm are signifigant factors in thier economic struggles. We have attempted assination, destabalized governments, and supported Overthrows throughout our southern nieghbors. We have often helped dictatorships and other forms of oppression so long as they served United States intrests. NAFTA, GAT, and the polices of the WTO have forced governments to take policies often ad odds where thier own peoples needs... witholding much needed loans until they support programs that serve the United States and corperate positions. These positions often cut social welfare programs, increase debt .... in effect creating poverty.

Argentina is often chastized for being Anti-American for it's rejection of NAFTA and the WTO, and often the government is labled corrupt. Yet there economy is recovering far faster than those who submit to our demands.

In short Economic opportunity is why most immigrants come to this country. Yes corruption has played a part, but as a minor actor, not the lead.

barb

great response GIL!

:-)

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